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Winds · Jun 17, 2008, 11:36 PM // 23:36

I think thats a small fix to the economy.

scythefromunder · Jun 17, 2008, 11:44 PM // 23:44

i sorta aggree.
But think of all the QQ'ing
/signed

Nightow · Jun 17, 2008, 11:47 PM // 23:47

When was the last time they made a skill change to a proph/core area?

Roman · Jun 17, 2008, 11:47 PM // 23:47

Buffing mindblades will fix the economy? lolwut..

/notsigned

kerpall · Jun 17, 2008, 11:48 PM // 23:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by scythefromunder

i sorta aggree.
But think of all the QQ'ing
/signed

I think the QQ over low ecto value is > QQ over screwing up the economy (aka perma SF).

Agreed, atleast people can still perma SF elsewhere, just not in the UW

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MStarfire · Jun 17, 2008, 11:49 PM // 23:49

Who cares? In all the pages upon pages of mindless bitching, NOBODY HAS MENTIONED WHY IT NEEDS TO BE NERFED.

The base of all the complaints seem to be about the economy and about everyone suddenly farming UW for ecto.

Who f'ing cares?

Honestly. So someone else is farming ecto and you're not. Why do you f'ng care? Why do you feel that THEIR style of play should be nerfed when it DOESN'T AFFECT YOU AT ALL?

This is NOT a PvP issue. The monsters in UW do not complain about this on internet message boards. This isn't an example of abuse of a skill to have an advantage in a tournament. This basically comes down to "I don't think they should have nice things. Change it because it's not fair to me."

I'm enjoying my obsidian armor thanks to this farm. Do I care if everyone else is getting it too? Nope. Not at all. I could give a shit about whose pixels are prettier than whose. I farmed the ecto because I wanted it for myself, not so I could stand in town and be an internet badass.

You people need to bitch less. Seriously.

Stephen John · Jun 17, 2008, 11:49 PM // 23:49

/unsigned that would be what a 1/4 casting signet plus fast casting and with deadly paradox shadow form almost instantly goes off are they capable if inting that? besides u can just dash away bc it rly only takes one sf to kill the group

Steps_Descending · Jun 17, 2008, 11:50 PM // 23:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by kerpall

Agreed, atleast people can still perma SF elsewhere, just not in the UW

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You could be surprised, a lot of worthwhile zone have counter to ShadowForm.
That being said...

/SIGNED if only for a hit against Shadow form, Signet of disenchantment was also brought up somewhere.

Tyla · Jun 17, 2008, 11:53 PM // 23:53

It would affect those who normally play aswell. Not just Ursan and SF farmers.

Migraine + so many interrupts = hurt.

And MStarfire, don't like it don't use it mirite?

If this is going to be nerfed, nerf all other solo farms aswell, and most importantly, prod Ursan with the nerf stick.

MStarfire · Jun 17, 2008, 11:55 PM // 23:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyla

It would affect those who normally play aswell. Not just Ursan and SF farmers.

Migraine + so many interrupts = hurt.

And MStarfire, don't like it don't use it mirite?

Exactly. If you don't like the build, who the hell are you to tell someone ELSE to not use it?

Winds · Jun 17, 2008, 11:55 PM // 23:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by MStarfire

Who cares? In all the pages upon pages of mindless bitching, NOBODY HAS MENTIONED WHY IT NEEDS TO BE NERFED.

The base of all the complaints seem to be about the economy and about everyone suddenly farming UW for ecto.

Who f'ing cares?

Honestly. So someone else is farming ecto and you're not. Why do you f'ng care? Why do you feel that THEIR style of play should be nerfed when it DOESN'T AFFECT YOU AT ALL?

This is NOT a PvP issue. The monsters in UW do not complain about this on internet message boards. This isn't an example of abuse of a skill to have an advantage in a tournament. This basically comes down to "I don't think they should have nice things. Change it because it's not fair to me."

I'm enjoying my obsidian armor thanks to this farm. Do I care if everyone else is getting it too? Nope. Not at all. I could give a shit about whose pixels are prettier than whose. I farmed the ecto because I wanted it for myself, not so I could stand in town and be an internet badass.

You people need to bitch less. Seriously.

not trying to be an internet badass? then why the cursing?

poasiods · Jun 17, 2008, 11:56 PM // 23:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by MStarfire

Who cares? In all the pages upon pages of mindless bitching, NOBODY HAS MENTIONED WHY IT NEEDS TO BE NERFED.

You people need to bitch less. Seriously.

The only bitching QQ post in the thread.

On other hand, [signet of disenchantment] + [lyssa's balance] + Snare ftl?

kerpall · Jun 17, 2008, 11:57 PM // 23:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by MStarfire

Who cares? In all the pages upon pages of mindless bitching, NOBODY HAS MENTIONED WHY IT NEEDS TO BE NERFED.

The base of all the complaints seem to be about the economy and about everyone suddenly farming UW for ecto.

Who f'ing cares?

Honestly. So someone else is farming ecto and you're not. Why do you f'ng care? Why do you feel that THEIR style of play should be nerfed when it DOESN'T AFFECT YOU AT ALL?

Well you see... there are a small population of GW players that have lots of these little pinkish balls. Sure their value fluctuates, but when it drops significantly, we are at a large loss. It is not about silly FoW armour, however a drop in our economy (ie: lower value for higher-end items, when the ecto : cash ratio does not change to keep up with ecto value).

An example timeline to help give your simple mind a rough idea...

-Sword sells for 100e, or 500k.
-A Skill nerf allows simple farming of Ecto.
-Sword still valued at 100e, however if ecto is sold, sword valued at lets say, 400k.

Funny how 1k here and there can add up to a substantial loss.

Sypherious · Jun 17, 2008, 11:58 PM // 23:58

this was discussed in the other thread, no need to exaggerate it.

close this.

MisterT69 · Jun 18, 2008, 12:00 AM // 00:00

Geez, eventually there's gonna be more SF QQ posts than Ursan. Why can't we bring up the ursan arguments, because in case u guys haven't realized...Ursan still= pure pwnage, and what has A-net done to it after over a year in the game? Virtually nothing. So stop the SF bitching, use another farm build if you want, just because you have [Shadow form] doesn't mean you have to use it.

Stolen Souls · Jun 18, 2008, 12:06 AM // 00:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winds

I think thats a small fix to the economy.

What would the other fixes be? Nerfing everything else that's able to farm UW, as well?

/notsigned

To the rich people that want to stay richer than everyone else....too bad.

Mr. Undisclosed · Jun 18, 2008, 12:08 AM // 00:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by kerpall

Well you see... there are a small population of GW players that have lots of these little pinkish balls. Sure their value fluctuates, but when it drops significantly, we are at a large loss. It is not about silly FoW armour, however a drop in our economy (ie: lower value for higher-end items, when the ecto : cash ratio does not change to keep up with ecto value).

An example timeline to help give your simple mind a rough idea...

-Sword sells for 100e, or 500k.
-A Skill nerf allows simple farming of Ecto.
-Sword still valued at 100e, however if ecto is sold, sword valued at lets say, 400k.

Funny how 1k here and there can add up to a substantial loss.

But umm the thing is, anet never said "hay guise, you shuld use ectos as a 2nd form of currency" Just because you decided to invest money in something other then pure cash doesn't mean we anet needs to bow to you.